Chapter 1. Introduction. Reason for writing; certain personsindifferent about Arianism; Ariansnot Christians, because sectaries always take the name of their. Athanasius: Select Works and Letters Four Discourses Against the Arians. Reason for writing; certain persons indifferent about Arianism; Arians not .. These Orations and Discourses seem written to shew the vital importance of the. Look Inside The Orations of St Athanasius Against the Arians Although Arianism was condemned as heretical at the Council of Nicaea in , it continued to.

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For how can he speak truth concerning the Fatherwho denies the Sonthat reveals concerning Him?

Because of us then and in our behalf are the words, ‘highly exalted’ and ‘given. Moreover, their further question, ‘whether the Unoriginate be one or two ,’ shows how false are their views, how treacherous and full of guile. Which of the two theologies sets forth our Lord Jesus Christ as God and Son of the Fatherthis which you vomited forth, or that which we have spoken and maintain from the Scriptures? Or is there any similarity between things eternal and spiritual, and things temporal and mortal?

For things which are from without are possessions, and pass from one to another; but my son is from me, proper and similar to my essencenot become mine from another, but begotten of me; wherefore I too am wholly in him, while I remain myself what I am. Who but would justly hate them while possessed by such a madness? This understood that inquiring eunuch, when he thus besought Philip, ‘I pray you, of whom does the Prophet speak this?

If then for our sake He sanctifies Himself, and does this when He has become man, it is very plain that the Spirit’s descent on Him in Jordan was a descent upon us, because of His bearing our body. More trustworthy are the saintsor rather the Lord, than the perversity oratiojs the irreligious. And they, when they call Him Unoriginate, name Him only from His works, and know not the Son any more than the Greeks; but he who oratios God Father, names Him from the Word; and knowing the Word, he acknowledges Him to be Oeations of all, and understands that through Him all things have been made.

For when they were no longer allowed to say ‘out of nothing’ and ‘He was not before His generation,’ they hit upon this word ‘unoriginate,’ that, by saying among the simple that the Son was ‘originate,’ ths might imply the very same phrases ‘out of nothing,’ and ‘He once was not;’ for in such phrases things originated and creatures are implied.

This withal being plain, that, since God is highest of all, His Word must necessarily be highest also. What does He mean but this? So too Meletius, thf ejected by Peter the Bishop and Martyr, called his party no longer Christiansbut Meletiansand so in consequence when Alexander of blessed memory had cast out Ariusthose who remained with Alexander, remained Christians ; but those who went out with Ariusleft the Saviour’s Name to us who were with Alexander, and as to them they were hence-forward oratiions Arians.


Or how can a man consider that which is proper, as foreign and alien in essence? Who indeed can bear to hear them say that God was ever without Reason?

Four Orations Against the Arians

For as He was ever worshipped as being the Word and existing in the form of Godso being what He ever was, though become man and called Jesus, He none the less has the whole creation under foot, and bending their knees to Him in this Name, and confessing that the Word’s becoming flesh, and undergoing death in flesh, has not happened against the glory of His Godhead, but ‘to the glory of God the Father.

Both events are reckoned His, since it was His Bodyand none againstt, that was exalted from the dead and taken up into heaven. Or how are they of the Catholic Church arins, who have shaken off the Apostolical faithand become authors of fresh evils? Hence in such instances there is not, properly speaking, adians father or son, nor do the father and the son stay in their respective characters, for the son himself becomes a father, being son of his father, but father of his son.

How then does this take place? Unless perhaps, as accident in essenceso they would have it, viz. Though surely amid such speculations, they will be moved by the sacred poet, saying, ‘Who is he among the gods that shall be like the Lord ,’ and, ‘Among the gods there is none like You, O Lord.

Therefore, since all that remains is to say that from the devil came their mania for of such opinions he alone is sowerproceed arhanasius to resist him — for with him is our real conflict, and they are but instruments — that, the Lord aiding us, and the enemy, as he is wont, being overcome with arguments, they may be put to shame, when they see him without resource who sowed this heresy in them, and may learn, though late, that, as raians Arians againet, they are not Christians.

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And you are called of the Catholic Church; therefore ye are not Christians either. Who at such blasphemies is not transported? Who, on reading what follows in his work, but must discern in his irreligious doctrine that errorinto which by his sophistries the serpent in the sequel seduced the woman?

What a load of extravagance!

CHURCH FATHERS: Four Discourses Against the Arians (Athanasius)

For the latter is unscriptural and suspicious, because it has various senses; so that, when a man is asked concerning it, his mind is carried about to many ideas; but the word Father is simple and scriptural, and more accurate, and only implies the Son.

But this, on the other hand, O you enemies of Christis not an Image, nor is it an Expression.

For if the Lord be GodSon, Word, yet was not all these before He became man, either He was something else beside these, and afterwards became partaker of them for His virtue’s sake, as we have said; or they must adopt the alternative may it return upon their heads!


This again is strongly evidenced and proved by divine Scripture.

If then they assume from human examples that generation implies time, why not from the same infer that it implies the Natural and the Properinstead of extracting oartions from the earth only what turns to poison?

How they trifle, appears from the following questions: How are you a Christian, to whom it is not even granted to bear the name of Christian? However, that as before they may pass judgment on themselves, it is well to meet them on the same ground, thus: For He received it as far as His man’s nature was exalted; which exaltation was its being deified. For if we said only that He atbanasius eternally with the Fatherand not His Son, their pretended scruple would have some plausibility; but if, while we say that He is eternalwe also athanasiis Him to be Son from the Fatherhow can He that is begotten be considered brother of Him who begets?

If oratipns they apply these passages to the Sonwhich perhaps is nearest to the truththen let them acknowledge that the sacred writers ask Him, as not being originate, to become to them ‘a strong rock and house of defense;’ and for the future let them understand ‘become,’ and ‘He made,’ and ‘He created,’ of His incarnate presence.

He has [elsewhere] insisted that the enforcement of the symbol was but the rejection of the heresy, and accordingly he is here content to bring out the Catholic sense, as feeling that, if persons understood and embraced it, they would not scruple at the word.

For what is from another by nature, is athanasiuus real offspring, as Isaac was to Yheand Joseph to Jacob, and the radiance to the sun; but the so called sons from virtue and gracehave but in place of nature a aggainst by acquisition, and are something else besides the gift itself; as the men who have received the Spirit by participation, concerning whom Scripture says, ‘I begot and exalted children, and they rebelled against Me.

If then He was of nothing, He would oratilns have been the Christ or Anointed, being one among others and having fellowship as the rest. Help others find pages by topic by adding a topic tag if this page is a good resource no commas or spaces. To help fight spam, this address might change occasionally. For the Sontoo, he says, not only knows not the Father exactly, for He irations in comprehensionbut oartions knows not even His own essence ;’— and that ‘the essences of the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghostare separate in nature, and estranged, and disconnected, and alienand without participation of each other ;’ and, in his own words, ‘utterly unlike from each other in essence and gloryunto infinity.

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